Jeremy:  So after last night I am thinking Carol was totally justified.

Kevin: Since they were early in the symptom phase though, they would have been put down even if Carol hadn’t done it. I wouldn’t have thought of it that way initially though because the other crew did come back with the medicine that cured everyone.

Jeremy:  Exactly at the time she did what was right not that it was an easy decision. It ran rampant and now we are back down to a manageable cast thankfully.

Kevin: I’m not sure it was right as they could have quarantined them just like they had everyone else. Euthanize them when they turn like everyone else.

Jeremy: Hmm, maybe I am giving her the benefit of the doubt and they were on way out anyway. She mentioned they were bleeding already and that seemed to be the sign that the end was near.

Kevin: I didn’t remember her saying that. Either way, I still think a slap on the wrist was a better way to go. Or if she had just been vocal about quarantining everyone earlier. I’m not sure why that was such a hard decision. For Carol that is. No need to boot her from the prison.

Jeremy: Tyreese wasn’t exactly calm about it all. Rick had a strong point that Tyreese was going to kill her for it. He wasn’t going to listen at that point. Maybe now after the carnage he would but not right then.

Kevin: That is a valid point although did they ever actually show Rick telling him or even Daryl?

Jeremy: No Hershel told Daryl to go see Rick about her. Then they went to either Tyreese and Sasha or the big reveal.

Kevin: Okay, I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t crazy. I guess it would be a back burner issue to trying to save people’s lives. It should make for an interesting episode next week. The ending was so odd too. I thought Hershel crying was the end of the show then we get 7 minutes of a hunky dory 60’s sitcom.

Jeremy: Well they had to show the group come back with the chaos. Ending the show with Hershel breaking down would have been too much. It was a classic pulling the rug out from under the audience.

Kevin: They do too much to the audience almost every week. But you’re right that everything needed to be peachy before the next, but first retread threat.

Jeremy: The entire episode was relentless. If that virus had killed off a main character then the danger if the plague would have been more believable. At no time did I ever think Glen was in Trouble. Sasha is a meh character right now so she had a hint if danger about her sickness.

Kevin: Neither did I. Glenn & Hershel were safe as safe could be. I understand the teaser part of showing the Governor but it told me that the virus was just an afterthought story line to fill time until we got to the mid-season finale hook.

Jeremy: It served its purpose by thinning the cast. Not just the leftovers from Woodbury though. Carol is on the lamb…um…lame? Tyreese was given depth through grief. It served to bring Rick and Carl together again.

Kevin: You just showed me. Ha ha ha. I guess I think they could make the transition without doing the everyone is happy 60’s garbage and just show the Governor. Add in more of trip back from Daryl’s group. You mean to tell me they only ran into a herd of zombies on the way there?

Jeremy: I hadn’t even thought about the herd on way back. Maybe they were all drawn in to the school? The trip back would have been redundant I suppose. Did one of “Carol’s daughters” go Walker last night? Was she the one that bit the guys arm holding the gun?

Kevin: I only thought that one of them went in and she seemed safe since she kept asking Hershel questions.

Jeremy: Well guess that is a wait and see.  We have too many young blonde girls in the show. Time to get to choppin.

Kevin: Not only are there too many of them, they’re all just relevant enough to think you should know their names but you never do because they’re not memorable. I forget Beth’s name half of the time.

Jeremy: Funny I was just going to say Beth is the only standout. On that front. Hershel was really great last night. Didn’t realize that was his first up close and personal zombie kill.

Kevin: I had assumed he had at some point Hershel had killed one. My how I’ve forgotten that he was the original experimenter on zombies.

Jeremy:  Yeah. He shot with guns but apparently nothing close quarters. He was impressive last night, which made his breakdown at the end so devastating. He tried and tried and nothing worked.

Kevin: He did keep a handful of people around so it wasn’t completely in vain.

Jeremy: It sure seemed bleak. When Daryl called him a badass and he said “Yes I am” it cracked me up. One legged man got it done.

Kevin: Yeah, Hershel did have quite the feature last night. They hadn’t used him too heavily since the time on the farm. He’s been the old guy with sage advice since they killed off Dale that same season.

Jeremy: Dale would have lasted three minutes. It did round up the virus storyline very well. They even finally got rid of the herd outside the prison for the time being. Which, in, why the hell haven’t they done something like that before? Hell Rick said there was a bus. No one had the idea to take the bus and run their asses over?

Kevin: Or have more people knocking over the zombies instead of the three people they always pictured out there. Hey lazy asses, get up and do something.

Jeremy: Just seems like The Council runs a lazy ship.

Kevin: I did like that no one was from Woodbury on the council

Jeremy: You noticed that too? Well Sasha but that barely counts.

Kevin: You would think people might want to be involved since their last leader dicked them over

Jeremy: Very true. Especially with the same people taking you in also “attacked” you previously.

Kevin: Plenty of motivation to get involved but most of them wanted to be zombie fodder.

Jeremy:  Followers, yuck. Well we glossed over it but with happier days seemingly ahead they go and give the big reveal. He returns.

Kevin: Yeah, we did touch on it some but all I needed to do is wait another week or 2 to get some Governor.

Jeremy: We all knew he was going to be back and am surprised so soon. Next week looks to be his episode so will get an update on what he has been doing. But when they panned back and there was someone in the woods it did slip out “No way.” Then you see the eye patch and it goes dark. Great end.

Kevin:  I wasn’t surprised but still a great ending. Especially when the preview had mentioned how much Michonne had been hunting him. Right under your nose.