Stunt Granny Conversation: The Raw After Wrestlemania
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Jeremy: Convo time! Raw was really good but then Brock ruined the momentum forcing solo Byron Sexton upon us.
Kevin: Ha. Well, that’s one way to have a Tuesday post. I can’t believe I’m typing these words but Jerry Lawler saved the commentary last night. Well, I would have believed I typed those words in the 90s.
Jeremy: Yes, Saxton needed help from a guy who barely talked for a majority of time before being shipped to Smackdown. It felt to me as if he was walking by the moment they needed an announcer to replace the dead Michael Cole and they grabbed him as a rib.
Kevin: I would have been more than happy with the NXT announce team and all of it’s weirdness.
Jeremy: Exactly. Also, does no one understand how to simply push the table back over? Couldn’t they pull a chair or two out form under the ring for them to sit on? Better yet, kick the Spanish announce team to the curb?
Kevin: I didn’t have time to make fun of that ridiculousness. I understand you want to demonstrate the carnage that Brock left but having a whole new announce team does that all by itself.
Jeremy: Yeah if the table had broken ok then cool leave it be. The fact they had to move it to get Booker and JBL out form under the wreckage basically demonstrates it can be moved.
Outside of that, what an angle.
Kevin: As I put it in the column last night, there are only so many ways to keep Brock off TV. I feel like they’ve done this before with the unprovoked attack but they don’t have many options. You’ve positioned Brock so far above everyone else, he literally can’t be there all the time.
Jeremy: What made this stand out was first, it hasn’t happened in a while. More importantly, he was brutal. he threw Joey Mercury in to the chairs. Jamie Noble got off easy. Then out of nowhere grabs some guy and it turns out to be Michael Cole. The nerdy announcer who did nothing wrong and seemingly was running away. Guess he had it coming for being a coward.
Kevin: Yeah, it was certainly the most targeted event since Nexus destroyed everyone and Daniel Bryan got fired for choking Justin Roberts with his own tie. I did feel bad for Mercury who got tossed from the far end of the main announcers desk to the far end of the Spanish announce table into the chairs. Even Booker looked like he got it good since he was nowhere to be seen when the desk got over turned.
Jeremy: I busted out with the ” Oh my god” when he did that. Mercury is 5 foot something and he got tossed like a half full bag of sand. All the while Paul Heyman is begging him not to hurt Cole. the entire package showed up strong.
Kevin: In no way to I want to undermine the execution of the event, because it was fantastic. Even Brock holding onto the camera man, looking like he’d calm down when Stephanie came out then he slowly crept back to the middle of the ring. Great anticipation and dread happening in that moment.
Jeremy: I enjoyed Paul telling Stephanie to stop telling Brock what to do as she was screeching. As much as I would have liked to have been there live, her screeching woul dhave been unbearable.
Kevin: I like her in those types of spots but the screeching is pretty tough on the ears. As they continued to point out the rest of the show, you can’t have an employee do that. Unfortunately, I already know they’ll do something to undermine this point in the near future.
Jeremy: So I guess a cameraman is the line? Never mind the announcers. Regardless good stuff and something that has been hinted as a possibility if happening for a while.
Kevin: Well, it’s one of those things where I hate when the authority figure comes out right as the action is happening. I think her reaction time was about right. She may have been just trying to stop from the camera man getting hurt then she was going to hand down the same punishment she did already. It’s hard to say. It’s all speculation what happens if he puts the camera guy down.
Jeremy: Good call. It is hard to sympathize with Brock because he beat the hell lot of people uninvolved. Then again it was great and deserved the cheers. Stephanie was actually in the right here even though she is a heel. Weird stuff but compelling. It was a packed show and I do not want to forget about a few things. So, lets start with a return. Sheamus. Um, I am very happy he is a heel. His outfit makes em hate him. Can this be considered mission accomplished?
Kevin: If the “You look stupid” chants keep up, then yes. It’s a great point to start at attacking Dolph Ziggler and Daniel Bryan because of their popularity.
Jeremy: The chants actually fed in to his attitude. In this case it was the smart thing to have him debut in front of a Wrestlemania audience. I have the feeling the beads in his beard braids (Very thankful we are typing not talking after having written that.) ave a significance.
Kevin: I’m not sure why that feels better in print than verbally. It seems silly that they’d have a reason for a look. The WWE doesn’t strike me as using symbology much.
Jeremy: I meant for me trying to enunciate that mess off alliteration. I did notice his trunks and knee pads were significantly toned down with the O only. This may be the first time someone has come back and not been a face in a while.
Kevin: That is quite true. Even the heels who come back go baby face for a little while at least. Sheamus was due for a change of scenery and the WWE finally provided it. He was going nowhere on the baby face side of the roster last go around too.
Jeremy: Yes and considering the fact he acted like a dick in the first place being a heel is a better choice. I now you aren’t as familiar with NXT so curious to what you thought of Lucha Dragons.
Kevin: I’ve become more familiar with them recently as I’m still not a weekly viewer but close to it. The WWE has so much TV time and I’m completely cool with adding to the division. My only real problem with it is that they are indistinguishab
Jeremy: They wear gold masks and fly all over the ring. One of them is a midget essentially. Kalisto was a lot of fun. If he stays healthy he could do some big things despite his size.
Kevin: I will have to correct the spelling of his name in my column. Pretty sure I used a C. He could be a Rey Mysterio type. Sin Cara is just happy to have a job.
Jeremy: I think the act, marketing aspect, will sell toys and masks for sure. They have a cool name and the arm motions will catch on. I disagree about the Matadors comment though, The Matadors are boring in the ring. These two came right out, more so Kalisto, and were all over the place.
Kevin: I thought all Mexicans were the same? Kalisto is better in the ring than either of the Matadores, though I’ve never thought they were bad, but I also don’t have a big attachment to any of the four.
Jeremy: The worst art of that is the matadors are Puerto Rican. I guess when you have a permanent tan and wear a mask you become Mexican? That’s how the world works right?
Kevin: I made the original joke because the WWE has no subtlety in the matters of race. They just know that their Mexican fans like to see a fellow of Latino heritage, which is racist too but that’s a whole other matter, flying around the ring in the WWE. The WWE likes to keep them on TV because it brings in money.
Jeremy: Nice lead there because Adrian Neville debuted as well. He and Curtis Axel played it good but the commentary mae it seem flat. I am curious how it played out with the live crowd. Byron Sexton couldn’t have been any less ambiguous to him and his moveset.
Kevin: I’m not sure if Saxton ever did NXT announcing or not but he was terrible at hyping Neville. Maybe it’s just me, but that name is entirely too plain to be a single name. Ryback paints a picture to me in one name. Neville sounds like a random last name of an English soccer player.
Jeremy: yes as soon as they announced him as Neville two things came to mind. The first is that they didn’t want to confuse the names and the other is Neville, on its own, sounds too close to Fievel that mouse from An American Tail. I thought the rest was fine. He has a decent look even if Elyse asked who the elf was. I made her watch the Red Arrow finisher and she was impressed.
Kevin: I think his looks will hamper him in the long run. He did kind of look like an elf with the cape & hood action going on though I’ve always thought of him as Dumbo. Oh and I’d be remiss in not saying that move is bad ass. Looks as good as Evan Bourne’s shooting star press back in the recent past.
Jeremy: Yeah man and it should have been treated as incredible. Instead i believe Sexton said “What a move.” Soon after Jerry Lawler was at ringside. Thsi is written with no sarcasm; Michael Cole was needed there. he may have gone overboard but the Red Arrow would have been treated as special.
Kevin: It was hard to recover even if Stardust and Damien Mizdow was a buffer in between this match and the Lesnar freak out. Cole would have sold it better but the mood was still set from the attack. Not the best time to have someone debut.
Jeremy: Good call as I hadn’t thought of that. The mood hadn’t settled back down yet. I am looking forward to Shahid’s point of view. Wonder what the differences between television and the live experience differs.
Kevin: The only note I got from his live experience was after I tweeted my Almost Live blog, “Reigns got respect from us idiots.” Not exactly sure what that means since I mostly heard boos when Reigns was on TV.
Jeremy: Yeah it sounded like the usual response from the smart fans. Nothing out of the ordinary. The main event was the typical after PPV match of people they don’t have a plan for yet so let’s give them a six man tag for no reason. You did mention Mizdow, I figure his feud with Miz will feature him not being able to use The Miz’s moves or music eventually.
Kevin: That could be very fun if that’s where they end up going. If Mizdow really wants his own career, he will need to do that.
Jeremy: yes waiting for the inevitable return to Damien Sandow which sound smuch betetr
Kevin: The WWE is too afraid to change away from it because the fans won’t know who to chant for then.
Jeremy: I thought his name was batter established as Sandow. The Mizdow name shackles him to Miz too closely. Time will tell on it though.
Kevin: There’s a lot of smart ass in my comment. I do hope Sandow gets a shot again though. Enjoyed his work on the first go around and still wondering why he got kicked in the teeth.
I know it’s turned into a fun gimmick but it didn’t start that way.
Jeremy: Yeah it started out of necessity. I thought it was odd Rollins never got his moment to gloat.
Kevin: He started to gloat but then he had Randy Orton show up. Exactly the layering of opponents the WWE wanted for Rollins. Orton is easier fodder to help build up Rollins title reign as legitimate. They do it nearly every time with the MITB briefcase winner.
Jeremy: This is for another chat or podcast but Rollins being the champion and with Cena and Bryan being wrapped up with midcard titles, the baby faces are a bit slim. Orton and Reigns are the only two currently. I suppose Ryback fits and the main event would be the showcase. On a whole though I found this Raw to be a bit better than last years we attended.
Kevin: You can always have Mark Henry take Rollins on since he went baby face again. Another easy win. The Raw after Mania gets a big voice on TV but aside from a few debuts, it is a bit of a boring show in general. There’s a reason 50% of convo centered around Brock Lesnar ripping the place up.
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