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Kevin: So where do we start with this episode of The Walking Dead? With the Kingdom or with the new faction lording over a well organized trash heap?

Jeremy: Lets go with the Trashbag gang. So, did they just keep Winston down there for this such a predicament?

Kevin: I assume so because there really wasn’t a good way to get out and they even had at least one viewing tube for the fight.

Jeremy: I liked the scene since it was so bizarre for the show. All I kept thinking though was how infected Rick has to be with something now.

Kevin: Almost every group seems to have some type of pit to fight zombies so it wasn’t too surprising they’d have a set up like this. Why you would use that many swords for a zombie pin cushion is more questionable for me. And yes, Rick has to be nine ways of infected from the hand or leg wounds.

Jeremy: On the search for guns, they need to find a Neosporin factory. Good lord. I did like Gabriel was not in fact a coward and ran off. It was sure convenient the way it paid off but it worked. I thought the line Rick told him about enemies becoming friends was kind of harsh. I think that has more to it than just Gabriel though.

Kevin: I’m not sure Gabriel was ever truly an enemy so I agree it was harsh. Gabriel was just another guy looking to not use violence in a violent world. Gabriel’s character has seemed to have taken a turn for the better but it is funny that he’s barely been seen since the change in attitude.

Jeremy: See in the comics he is barely around. This is way more than he has been used in both.  They have differentiated form the comics big time these last two episodes and that is a good thing but it may get to be another situation of dragging things out. I do not understand the reluctance of Tara to tell Rick about Seaside (Oceanside?). She literally owes them nothing. They didn’t seem that reasonable but at least telling Rick about them would be better than stumbling across them accidentally.

Kevin: I read an article about the show before doing this conversation and I’ve got to admit, I have no idea Tara was being reluctant about telling Rick about Waterside. Tara doesn’t owe them squat. Plus, it’d really help to have another group and it just so happens they hate the Saviors too.

Jeremy: My thoughts as well but then they made it pretty clear they don’t want to be bothered. So sick the trash gang on them? I am guessing Rick gets Richards gins for them somehow. Richard is one of the better auxiliary characters now. Jerry is a cult favorite but Richard serves a purpose and has sort of taken Carols place. his willingness to sacrifice her was scary and smart.

Kevin: His faith in Carol’s ability to survive an attack from the Saviors was amazing considering that he doesn’t know her particularly well. Richard is certainly moving things along within the Kingdom who are still the only group to not want to jump into the fray of fighting the Saviors. The Trashlanders just need guns to get started.

Jeremy: Well, Hilltop has Gregory holding things up so don’t forget them. Richard seems like there is more to it than just being bagged on by the Saviors. I am still confused why the Saviors allow The Kingdom to carry any guns. Richard did say he set her up which surprised me. The lengths he is willing to go. I was happy they didnt drag out the reunion of Carol and Daryl.

Kevin: Gregory is only holding things up so much at Hilltop since as we noted last week, he isn’t popular and everyone came to Rick & Jesus about being ready to fight.