Jeremy: I got home way late and got nothing done. Plus Raw put me to sleep which I needed to catch up on.
Kevin: I’m sure mini-Gator vs El Torito woke you up
Jeremy: I missed that completely. I saw Rock and then fell asleep watching football.
Kevin: You saw the high light of the show. I did muse whether people think The Rock should job to Rusev. Because to me it’s only slightly less crazy than saying John Cena should job to him.
Jeremy: I was confused about the segment. I thought Rusev was going to get over but then he is feuding with Big Show, sort of
thought Rock did a good job getting over the fact Rusev is a jerk. I would have liked to have seen some offense from Rusev. He didn’t have to “destroy” Rock or anything but at least give him a few shots before the comeback. Oh and that was not the highlight of the show for me. No sarcasm, Eric Rowans promo. Vignette, sorry.
Kevin: I could have dealt with Rusev getting in a few shots. I am liking the build better with Big Show and him. It seems now, they did pull the flag down just for story line purposes. Rowan’s skit was pretty damn cool.
Jeremy: I was happy to see he wasn’t getting pushed to the side. I also like the idea of building strong characters in a stable. If all three of the Wyatt family have that they could all be money. Not just Bray and Luke.
Kevin: Has that ever happened without a tag team in the group? Evolution?
Jeremy: I guess The Four Horsemen? NWO when they were smaller but then Hall & Nash were a tag team as well.
Kevin: Tully & Arn were a team a lot. But I get your point. You can have a strong stable without having a weak link to blame all ills on.
How are we forgetting The Shield? Duh.
Jeremy: Yes that is a better way of looking at it. Well on the tag-team side though they had Roman and Seth but now for sure. Ok so maybe this isn’t fully thought out but usually one is the weaker one.
Kevin: I guess that’s why I drug the Shield into the conversation. Everyone kept going “Rollins is going to get the short end of the stick.”
Then it switched to “Ambrose isn’t really the leader any more.” Reigns has the same problem he had in the group, he’s not a good promo.
But all three are positioned well right now. Injury aside for Reigns. The problem with comparing them to the Wyatts is that the Wyatts haven’t had a successful year and a half run.
Jeremy: The Wyatts had a good run in January and February beating Daniel Bryan clean and The Shield. Then nothing.
Sure tehtre wa the Jericho feud but Harper & Rowan jobbing out to the Usos constantly did not help.
Kevin: Exactly. Both groups are in way different spots when they go their own ways so it could get interesting. Rowan is the obvious choice to be the weak link.
Jeremy: Yes and that is why I was happy to see that vignette. It gives the appearance of a plan for him. Um, what was up with the pregnant belly?
Kevin: I don’t have the slightest clue. I’d be fine if it means some sort of addition to the act. Having a female part to the group would be a nice touch.
Jeremy: I was thinking the same but looking at developmental I don;t see anyone.
Plus, do you trust them not to run with a “crazy” woman gimmick?
Kevin: Ha. They don’t need any more crazy women. They had four of them in one match last night. I’d be more worried she’d come out looking like Daisy Duke instead of a swamp rat.
Jeremy: yeah so my confidence isn’t high on that idea. A sexed up chick wouldn’t work at all.
Kevin: The first thought entering my head was Rebel in The Menagerie which would be a disaster. Do you have any guesses?
Jeremy: Not one comes to mind man. Jessica Havok maybe but she is in TNA so no chance.
Kevin: I guess I was wondering if there was another meaning than the one I inferred. It could be just a creepy way to get your message out.
Jeremy: yeah pretty much what I thought and it worked. I doubt they have the writers to have the pregnant chicks belly mean a rebirth.
Kevin: They’ll totally mean it if the push doesn’t fizzle out.
Jeremy: I swear Rowan was Scottish. I either had the total wrong info or he has really worked with a dialect coach
Kevin: I had to look it up. He’s from Minneapolis. The accent may be harder to cover up than a Scottish one.
Jeremy: Hell. No clue where I got that then.
Kevin: I thought he was from Scotland too. Must have been a rumor at some point. Did you catch anything else before crashing out?
Jeremy: I briefly woke up or stirred for Kane having blood on hm. I thought something catastrophic happened. So rewound it. I shouldn’t have.
Kevin: Raw was full of laughs. That was the biggest of them all.
Jeremy: Shahid mentioned Ambrose being like the Joker, which I can get behind. I just didn’t care for it. Logically it was fine but nah.
Kevin: I don’t remember the Joker attacking anyone with ketchup & mustard.
Jeremy: More the point that he is totally unpredictable. he should have rolled the cart at them and then attacked. I did enjoy him dumping sauerkraut on a helpless Seth Rollins.
Kevin: He did roll the cart at them then attack. Or did he go ketchup & mustard then toss the cart at them?
Jeremy: Ketchup mustard from his” holster” and then used it.
Kevin: Does seem backwards but that’s part of being unpredictable. Kane & Orton were expecting the cart first.
Jeremy: I guess. Is it even worth mentioning how devalued Randy Orton’s name has become?
Kevin: But he’s a twelve time champ. If you built a wrestler from the ground up, you’d get Orton. How many other cliches do they use to cover up for the fact that he’s been devalued that much?
Jeremy: Youngest WWE champ? I can’t remember if that was one.
Kevin: How did I forget that one? Of course it is.
Jeremy: It is weird defending the guy after so many years of saying he was boring.
Kevin: I feel like I’ve criticized him more for being boring in the ring. It wasn’t until recently that I realized he was boring on the mic too. He doesn’t do anything glaringly wrong but it isn’t electrifying either.
Jeremy: One guy who definitely qualifies is Kane but him staring at the fruit basket needs to be a gif
Kevin: Qualifies as what? The fruit basket just showed how old Vince is. I haven’t heard about fruit baskets being given away at Hollywood events. Give Steph some designer purse and HHH a designer tie. Something like that. Kane’s reaction was damn funny though.
Jeremy: Well it was an organic fruit basket.
Kevin: I forgot about that part. Way funnier now. But what was Kane qualifying as? Boring?
Jeremy: Yeah boring for sure.
Kevin: I at least still get a kick out of him from time to time. I could use him not wrestling any more.
Jeremy: He has been around so long I am not sure there is really anything left for him to do now.
Kevin: The guy has re-invented himself enough that I have faith in him. Let him be a stooge or fill out a true director of operations. He could be a de facto GM if HHH & Steph are gone. They went comedy route the last time with him bickering with others in The Authority pecking order. Let him head it up and go from there.
Jeremy: I am not sure how much reinventing they can do but his longevity is to be admired.
Kevin: So the only other topic worth talking about on Raw was Edge & Christian doing the Smackdown 15 year gig stuff. Did you catch them or the content on the Network?
Jeremy: No, but I plan on it just for the two of them. But then they get the same reaction for them that I do with Rock. I miss the days when everyone was over or at least entertaining.