Stunt Granny Conversation: The Walking Dead – Season 6 – JSS

Saved from comicbook.com but surely from AMC in some manner.

Saved from comicbook.com but surely from AMC in some manner.

Jeremy: I feel like garbage and thus will probably leave early. So, lets get in to this thing.
Kevin: Too much partying on the anniversary?
Jeremy: I felt weird Saturday and then after that ridiculous ending to the Michigan game the effects came on. Think the adrenaline of watching the game was keeping it at bay.
Kevin: The game hang over was going to be my second guess. Only thing stranger than that play is watching it in mirror image off the glazing at the restaurant we were at.
Jeremy: Dude I wasn’t mad, I didn’t yell nothing. I just sat there trying to figure out what just happened.
Kevin: I’m not sure I’m going to see a stranger end to a football game, ever. That’s all I know. Now back to Walking Dead, was it strange to you to hear no reference to last week’s show except for the previews?
Jeremy: The only call back to last weeks episode was Morgan telling Carol , very quickly, that they had to start the plan.
Kevin: I was actually awake and intent on this episode and I miss a little small piece, again. Morgan was the only person who was in both shows so it makes sense. I just thought the previews were misleading because they talked about things being normal, but then it wasn’t really. The other mission was still going on.
Jeremy: It was very fast and simply a means to explain to her why Morgan was back and by himself. They are doing the time jump business again where the first few episodes all run congruent. I enjoy that style since it provides nearly all action leading up to a slow down show.
Kevin: It made sense after I realized the time lapping but it did throw me off coming into the episode. The struggle for ideology did continue with Morgan and Carol, who got to replace Rick on that end.
Jeremy: Morgan is kind of infuriating at this point. Until they give his back story about his time in between meeting Rick and then finding Alexandria his ideology is on par with Father Gabriel’s and a step above Eugene. Letting one of the two Wolves he met go is stupid. At least by the end he kills the other because you have to now.
Kevin: I was trying to figure out why he thought letting these people go was a good idea. For the most part, everyone realizes that they attack Alexandria unprovoked. Do you think you’re going to convert them?
Jeremy: But he told them they had guns to make a point. Instead of letting them know they need to bring better weapons next time. At least beat them down and tie them up like the other guys. Just hide them from Carol until you have the information you need. It is very hard to empathize with characters on this show who are cowardly or apprehensive about what needs to be done.
Kevin: That group was kind of weird. They did a bunch of scouting but didn’t realize Alexandria did have guns. They had a pretty decent plan but still seemed to attack in a chaotic fashion.
Jeremy: As the episode started I figured it was an Enid episode and she was going to die. I mean the jerk killed a turtle so she had it coming. When they were going through the rebuilding of Alexandria. So seeing ole Pasta maker chick get hacked down was surprising. No warning or anything.
Kevin: It didn’t dawn on me that, that kid of was Enid. So did she end up causing the attack by writing someone’s initials along the way? Were they looking for her? Because they took their grand old time if that was the case. Pasta maker chick going down was a surprise but then again, we’re only used to African American characters finally getting TV time just prior to getting knocked off. Congrats on crossing the color barrier, Pasta Maker chick.
Jeremy: Nah Enid is just a lost kid. Pretty brutal watching your parents get eaten. I was suspect of her when Carl and her sat back to back. I expected her to attack him. When it didn’t happen she was off the hook as far as suspicion.
Kevin: The initials were the acronym for Just Survive Somehow that she wrote to Carl when she left.
The memory really is starting to go because I didn’t remember what that stood for. That’s what everyone is doing though so no big surprise. I didn’t expect her to turn on Carl in that manner. I was half expecting her not to like him any more because of what his dad did.
Jeremy: They had their moment last week so that wasn’t a concern. I was just waiting for the teenage drama to start since Ron didn’t like her being in Carl’s house. The scene was balanced very well in how Carl came to the rescue and then still had that innocent part where he wanted to help the guy.
Kevin: I think everyone in the core group knows how important it is to keep allies alive and even as much as he disliked the other guy, he was worth keeping alive.
Jeremy: Well Carol left Gabriel for dead which was funny if not sad. can we just get to the part where we talk about Carol being the best character in the show?
Kevin: I will bring up the point first about Gabriel that it seemed like they wanted to make more of him joining the fight then he didn’t get any screen time after that initial 3-5 minutes. Not that I care about his character but I found it strange. I thought you were going to bring up Carol when we started talking about Pasta Maker Chick. Carol had quite the scene with her when she was dying.
Jeremy: Having Gabriel want Carl to train him added to the confusion of the episode. You expected some sort of conflict in training him and instead all chaos broke out. Seeing him get overtaken so fast hammered home the idea he needs some sort of training. Anytime I can watch a  television show berate someone for smoking and then watch that person take a machete to the head I am all for it.
Kevin: Ha. A machete to the head is just fun in the special effects department.
Jeremy: The viciousness on the part of the Wolves was pretty startling. usually the violence is more subdued but they made it a point of showing them hacking people up. Obviously there is more to them but the first meeting was crazy. They didn’t even try taking prisoners outside of Carol’s fake out.
Kevin: That was one of the more bloody person to person fights. As already mentioned, they didn’t use much or any guns so that helped amp up the violence. Now did Carol see the W on some of their heads before putting blood on her head or did she just assume it was a good idea.
Jeremy: I figure she saw them. She did take the clothes off a dead wolf so she had to have seen it. There was just some really good stuff with Carol again. Her going to the armory and gunning Wolves down with head shots as she ran. Then bucks off the one Wolve or Wolf, which is it anyway, and guns her down then the guy in the back as well. It was all so fast. Really nicely executed. Shows you how far she has come as well.
Kevin: She’s been a bad ass since she got booted out of the group. One could argue that she became a bad ass for what she did to get booted. However she arrived at the plan to cover herself in the enemy garb, it was brilliant and did help her take out a lot of people.
Jeremy: Then her straight up head shots to any Wolf around her. The guy Morgan tied up she just shoots in the head. No second thought or discussion. Even tells Morgan to get on board by handing him a gun. Of course he hands it to Gabriel. he also allowed on of the Wolves to run off with a gun instead of taking them out. Carol on the other hand just deals with he problem. Unfortunately Morgan still sees them as people instead of problems.
Kevin: You referenced it earlier, but it would be interesting to know what Morgan has done in between meetings with Rick. We didn’t even really get much of an idea what he was doing even after they had his shot at the end of one Season 5’s debut. He popped up a couple of times but more like a detective finding a clue than anything substantial. He was isolated in the town the time we saw him before that. I don’t think he’s had much more experience with the “The World Now” than the people of Alexandria do.
Jeremy: There has to be a one off episode surrounding his trials. All I can hold out for. So, what was the point of the doctor?
Kevin: Comic relief? I do feel like they’ve had this situation play out a lot where someone goes from basically bystander to person that ends up knee deep in gore. Most of the time it’s going from pacifist to fighter though so this situation is a bit different. Maybe it ends up playing out that she can’t save someone important that could have been saved by Dennis.
Jeremy: I thought for sure it was leading to someone breaking in and causing chaos during her surgery try. it also did give a good laugh with Eugene in the room.
Kevin: I was expecting something of the sort too. It was another thing about this show that was odd to me that none of the houses were threatened that much. Carl dispatched of the one guy, nothing happened during the surgery and only Jessie had something real to worry about.
Jeremy: Then Morgan at the end when they were clearing them out. When he finally realized he had to kill the dude.
Kevin: I know he felt like he needed to kill then, but it’ll be interesting to see if he continues on that streak or gets back on the peace, love & happiness trail.
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