Jeremy: That was an interesting game with Pittsburgh Penguins and the Columbus Bluejackets last night.
Kevin: I was so annoyed by the start. The Pens took control after the TO though. It took them a while to crack Bob still.
Jeremy: Shows the inexperience. Shouldn’t blow a two goal lead in 3rd.
Kevin: They’ve done that twice so far this series and I do think it’s partially inexperience. The other part, which is what is bothering me more, is the Pens are more talented. Granted, outworking them is helping the CBJ stay in it.
Jeremy: I started flipping between Raw and hockey so didn’t see enough to see that.
Kevin: So Wednesday should be interesting.
Jeremy: Yeah for sure. Thought of that last night. Pivotal game. No chance Cbus can go down 3-1
Kevin: Which is what I’m hoping for. As soon as I knew I only had game 4, I was hoping the Pens weren’t on the verge of a sweep because they have only swept 1 team under Dan Bylsma.
Jeremy: no one can sweep so far which is good
Kevin: Did Tampa finally win? Walked the dogs during intermissions and started watching Raw after the game.
Jeremy: Oh forgot about them. I was out by 10:30 or so. Have to watch end still but no shock Cena won even if by DQ.
Kevin: I’ll have it in a next day note but it was funny of the WWE to skew a vote against the baby face to continue the narrative.
Jeremy: Yeah I know. Like the outcome was in anyway a surprise.
Kevin: It’s so weird too since it’s basically the same mistake he made against Nexus that he claims to regret. Learn from past mistakes, John. Just read that Jim Ross thinks the fans voted for that situation. Either he’s a rube or he’s still covering for the WWE. Either way, it’s a bad look for credibility.
Jeremy: Nah I have no doubt the fans really voted that. Why would they want anything but the most in that?
Kevin: Then why would the 2nd most votes be just for Harper?
Jeremy: Harper is awesome. I am convinced the app stuff is for the hardcore stuff which is why they keep explaining hwo to do it. They think the average fan is stupid and reading the comments on pics and that, ugh, they are.
Kevin: I just need to read the comments from Twitter they post on the screen. The Tweets couldn’t try to be less mundane.
Jeremy: Oh yeah those are great. Totally useless.
Kevin: So I’m sure the comments are just as priceless. Luke Harper rulez! Thanks @TheBeztWWEFan
Jeremy: I am not doing better than that one. You nailed every aspect, down to the Z in the name.
Kevin: I’m not even sure if I could Tweet something like that. Maybe I could just to see @Stunntgranny scroll across the screen.
Jeremy: I considered it but just no
Kevin: The level of shame attached isn’t worth it.
Kevin: Ha. Anything else jump out at you during the show?
Jeremy: They got Daniel Bryan off tv fast to deal with his dad dying. thought that was a nice touch. Crazy month for that guy. Total roller coaster.
Kevin: Included that in the corrections I just posted. That is the definition of up & down.
Jeremy: yeah, when he came out I expected him to say something about it, hence the Brie Bella cameo.
Kevin: I didn’t know that was news before the show. Never much check the sites after noon.
Jeremy: I saw it on twitter or something. Not a usual destination but came across it somehow.
Kevin: I was avoiding that being behind in the game some
Jeremy: OK, so Lana’s real name is CJ Perry on the SSV board have near nude pics of her already. Damn fine work.
Kevin: I decided to put Paige pics in the column instead of Lana.
Jeremy: Nice. She is attractive.
Kevin: I’ll have to take a look at the Lana pics though. Never been much for blondes.
Jeremy: Ha. Booooo.
Kevin: I wouldn’t kick Lana out of bed for eating crackers after watching that short video.
Kevin: Probably a little short on a column still. Dusty is doing the show tonight. So anything else strike you from Raw that we can discuss?
Jeremy: Ran home and watched that main event. Weak shit. The Super Cena stuff doesn’t work anymore. Everyone else has some realistic tendencies but hsi act is so bad in comparison. He did , maybe, 7 moves all match and won. The instant DQ at the end was idiotic. Really bad stuff. It should have just been a beatdown and no match.
Kevin: Whoever booked the match did pace things well in that Bray Wyatt kept letting Cena off the hook by playing to the crowd which allowed him to get those 7 moves in.
Jeremy: yes that was OK but it was a beat down for 15? min. it is just the character doesn’t meld with the new or current guys
there are too many established “legit” guys now. It isn’t like he is facing Alberto Del Rio. If it was Erik Rowan takign a AA and then a nearfall then ok, but not Wyatt who you are tryign to build up. You have to sell a cage macth for christ sake. If he can beat him with the interference what is the damn point?
Kevin: Why I skipped over that aspect of it is a mystery to even me. Rowan is getting in less and less ring time as their gimmick keeps getting used. Not a good sign for him. You are right that he should be the one nearly losing. Not the guy who already lost to Cena at Wrestlemania.
Jeremy: Right,I know that Cena is ” the standard” now but there is money in the idea that the younger guy is nto ionly getting in to his head but wearing him down physically. Having him get beat for 18 minutes only to make a comeback like nothing happened is not a smart way to further a story.I am not even hating on Cena. This would be a good week to see whot he producer of the segment was. They need to get across the importance of looking weak. Remember Nexus just crushing Cena a few years back. It was startling because it never happened. Last night was a moment to do the same. Cena cannot win against the Wyatt Family. They are too strong or they have worn him down so far between the onset of the feud and now. It makes Cenas eventual triumph that much bigger. Fuck, this is easy.
Kevin: But you don’t know the back stage politics, man! HHH would never take a spear from Roman Reigns to help build up Evolutions feud with the Shield. So why would John Cena receive a beat down?
Jeremy: Well Cena did take a beat down after the fact as well but it rings hollow. Yes I am ignoring your very accurate point about Triple H. It was just a very poorly conceived segment. It would also help if the Attitude Adjustment wasn’t a sorry looking finisher. Outside of Ryback who has a weaker looking final move?
Kevin: So glad Bad News Barrett isn’t using Wasteland any more. But trying to think of bad finishers and am coming up empty. Looked at the roster after thinking on it and still nothing.
Jeremy: I was aiming more at bigger guys with weak finishers. Anything that consists of a flat back bump isn’t too harsh looking. It also depends on the delivery. If Cena drove the body to the mat or at least kept his hand on the stomach to make it look like he was driving them then cool. He simply flips the guy on to the back. No different than a hiptoss or a back drop.
Kevin: It reminds me of the Walls of Jericho in a way. It looked good at the start but looked weaker when they started doing it a lot. Jericho turns it into a Boston Crab. Cena has gone from a DVD to as you noted, tossing someone on their back.
Jeremy: Even the STF has gotten a bit better ever since Austin tod him on his podcast to tighten it up. ll of this factors in making this angle with The Wyatts work. They are believable in their actions and moves and he has the responsibility to do the same. It falls on the producers to get it over as well.
Kevin: Ha. Didn’t listen to that one but it’s good that Austin called him out. Austin was the best at doing the little things to keep it look realistic. I remember him just punching people as he drug them back to the ring. One of the reasons I like Austin over other people.
Jeremy: It is alwasy the little things that go towards making things realistic. Even if the announcers, which they didn’t, would have brought up the fact that all John had to do was get dirty to fight back it would have helped last night. Fight fire with fire.Some cliche like that.Imagine after all that with Kane and Daniel bryan he gets up and gives the running knee to kane.
Kevin: That would have been ridiculous. DB and Cena have much different characters. Cena’s needs to be more like DB. Allow a beat down to happen. As much as we’ve talked up Cena for losing key important matches, he doesn’t allow beat downs like he should.
Jeremy: Well he allows the beat down but never the culmination of the beat down. He has no issue showing one cheek but he never goes full on ass.